The Good, The Bad and the Others

The Good, The Bad and the Others

Here comes the New Punk..............

a personal view of the bands of '79-'81

To some people, the original Oi scene of this time was just a blip, a return to the basics or just something best forgotten.

What these bands did was to influence the music scene at a much later date by keeping the idea of DIY Punk alive. Jay Macis (of Dinosaur Jnr) is himself quoted as saying that the 4Skins were an influence on him, both via their image and their music. From Rancid to the DropKick Murphys, Oi has been an influence and kept the spirit alive.

The influences on the 79-81 bands? Sham 69, Menace, Cocksparrer as well as the Pistols, the Clash et al

Barney and the Rubbles

'I like Beans, I like sauce,

I Like sexual intercourse'

Barney Rubble, poet, philospher and comedian. His band the Rubbles were a collection of ICF/Skin/Mods famous for songs such as Up against the 'Wall ('Do em all, Kill Millwall!'). Rubble was also responsible for catchphrases such as 'well suspect' and 'gotta ave it'. The track 'Bootboys' on Oi the Album comes the closest to Oi meets PIL.

To be honest started off with great potential, great songs and recordings but their arrogance took over...I always felt that their hearts werent it (maybe unfair but thats life!)... Listen to their early tracks and the Upstarts influence.

The hardest band to comment on. From Flares and Slippers through to Greatest Hits Volume 2, they were one of the best punk/bootboy bands of the late 70s/80s....they knocked the Upstarts and Sham into a cocked hat. With razor guitars (built on a wall of sound) and terrace chants, the band had hit after hit as their reputation for no-nonsense punk grew. Their link to West Ham United crucified the band live and they evolved into a rock band and eventually broke up.

They recently reformed and played Canning Town in January 2004

Always seen as the Last Resorts house band (the shop in Petticoat Lane, East London), they were always much more than that. Arthur Kay and Roi Pearce articulated the views and opinions of a wide section of the skin community at that time. The track that stands out for me is 'The King of the Jungle', one of the best tracks produced in the Oi scene.

Roi later became the final vocalist with the 4Skins and Arthur Kay continued playing in ska bands

South London herberts with a blistering debut. Harry May was class and the album Suburban Rebels followed this up. Always seen to be associated with the 4Skins, their casual image didn't detract from the punk message they preached.

The band is still going strong (via the usual Oi line-up changes that have affected all of the bands!)

Not to be Forgotten.....

Angela Rippons Bum (Barker of course!), The Strike, Criminal Class, The Ejected, Peter and the Test Tube Babies, East End Baddoes amongst others

Copyright Note: All photographs on this web-site are owned by Tom McCourt and he has given his permission for their use on this site and that they may be freely copied to other web-sites

Copyright (c) 2004 Tommy Cassidy.
Permission is granted to copy, distribute and/or modify this document
under the terms of the GNU Free Documentation License, Version 1.2
or any later version published by the Free Software Foundation;
with no Invariant Sections, no Front-Cover Texts, and no Back-Cover Texts.
A copy of the license is included in the section entitled "GNU
Free Documentation License".

Permission is granted to copy, distribute and/or modify this document under the terms of the GNU Free Documentation License, Version 1.2 or any later version published by the Free Software Foundation; with no Invariant Sections, no Front-Cover Texts, and no Back-Cover Texts. A copy of the license is included in the section entitled "GNU Free Documentation License".


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		Here comes the New Punk.............. a personal view of the bands of '79-'81 To some people, the original Oi scene of this time was just a blip, a return to the basics or just something best forgotten. What these bands did was to influence the music scene at a much later date by keeping the idea of DIY Punk alive. Jay Macis (of Dinosaur Jnr) is himself quoted as saying that the 4Skins were an influence on him, both via their image and their music. From Rancid to the DropKick Murphys, Oi has been an influence and kept the spirit alive. The influences on the 79-81 bands? Sham 69, Menace, Cocksparrer as well as the Pistols, the Clash et al



		Barney and the Rubbles 'I like Beans, I like sauce, I Like sexual intercourse' Barney Rubble, poet, philospher and comedian. His band the Rubbles were a collection of ICF/Skin/Mods famous for songs such as Up against the 'Wall ('Do em all, Kill Millwall!'). Rubble was also responsible for catchphrases such as 'well suspect' and 'gotta ave it'. The track 'Bootboys' on Oi the Album comes the closest to Oi meets PIL. Infa Riot To be honest started off with great potential, great songs and recordings but their arrogance took over...I always felt that their hearts werent it (maybe unfair but thats life!)... Listen to their early tracks and the Upstarts influence.



		Cockney Rejects The hardest band to comment on. From Flares and Slippers through to Greatest Hits Volume 2, they were one of the best punk/bootboy bands of the late 70s/80s....they knocked the Upstarts and Sham into a cocked hat. With razor guitars (built on a wall of sound) and terrace chants, the band had hit after hit as their reputation for no-nonsense punk grew. Their link to West Ham United crucified the band live and they evolved into a rock band and eventually broke up. They recently reformed and played Canning Town in January 2004 The Last Resort Always seen as the Last Resorts house band (the shop in Petticoat Lane, East London), they were always much more than that. Arthur Kay and Roi Pearce articulated the views and opinions of a wide section of the skin community at that time. The track that stands out for me is 'The King of the Jungle', one of the best tracks produced in the Oi scene. Roi later became the final vocalist with the 4Skins and Arthur Kay continued playing in ska bands The Business South London herberts with a blistering debut. Harry May was class and the album Suburban Rebels followed this up. Always seen to be associated with the 4Skins, their casual image didn't detract from the punk message they preached. The band is still going strong (via the usual Oi line-up changes that have affected all of the bands!) Not to be Forgotten..... Angela Rippons Bum (Barker of course!), The Strike, Criminal Class, The Ejected, Peter and the Test Tube Babies, East End Baddoes amongst others Copyright Note: All photographs on this web-site are owned by Tom McCourt and he has given his permission for their use on this site and that they may be freely copied to other web-sites Copyright (c) 2004 Tommy Cassidy. Permission is granted to copy, distribute and/or modify this document under the terms of the GNU Free Documentation License, Version 1.2 or any later version published by the Free Software Foundation; with no Invariant Sections, no Front-Cover Texts, and no Back-Cover Texts. A copy of the license is included in the section entitled "GNU Free Documentation License". Permission is granted to copy, distribute and/or modify this document under the terms of the GNU Free Documentation License, Version 1.2 or any later version published by the Free Software Foundation; with no Invariant Sections, no Front-Cover Texts, and no Back-Cover Texts. A copy of the license is included in the section entitled "GNU Free Documentation License".